61. Hello Birdies w/ Kelly-Dawn Hellmrich! (Bachelorette AU S4 E9-10)

This week, things get surprisingly vulnerable on the podcast, as we discuss how Charlie's manipulation and emotional abuse make him the most reprehensible person we've seen on Bachie to date. Plus - why is this Oktoberfest date airing in mid-November? Why did they cram all their product placement into one week? And which of these weird, miserable hometown dates bummed us out the most? Hey, at least there were some ducks.