233: He shut down his first company and built a bigger one | Anil Goteti, Scapia | Unstarted Ep 5

What does it actually take to go from employee to founder — after 8 years inside one of India's greatest startups?In Episode 5 of Unstarted, Avnish Bajaj sits down with Anil Goteti, CEO of Scapia, to talk about the real founder journey — not the highlight reel. From leaving McKinsey after just one year, to carrying a US loan back to India, to building and shutting down his first startup before finding PMF with Scapia.This episode covers:- Why entrepreneurs are made, not born- The Monday Morning Test — knowing when to quit- What 8 years at Flipkart actually teaches you- Why competition never killed a company — customers did- How to know when your product is (and isn't) working- The failure before Scapia and what it taught himIn the end, the destination was always clear and the route was never going to be linear. Finally, the Monday morning test doesn't lie.Unstarted is a podcast by Z47 - by founders, for founders. Whether you've started or you're yet unstarted.YT Chapters0:00 - Introduction & What is Unstarted1:45 - Meet Anil Goteti — IIT, McKinsey, Flipkart & Scapia4:00 - Are Entrepreneurs Born or Made?7:30 - The Kid Who Wanted a Product in Every Indian's Hand11:00 - IIT Electrical vs Computer Science — The First Detour14:00 - Leaving McKinsey After 1 Year: "I Want to Be the King"18:30 - Joining Flipkart - Taking One Notch of Risk22:00 - 8 Years at Flipkart: The Best Projects & Lessons31:00 - The Monday Morning Test35:30 - Who Inspires Anil Goteti?39:00 - How Do You Know When Your Product Is Working?45:00 - Competition Never Killed Anyone - Customers Did49:00 - The Failed Startup Before Scapia54:00 - What's Next: Building Scapia