Way of the Heart Podcast

Jake and Brett go back to the basics and dive deep into the highs and lows of life. From sharing the joys of family gatherings to the stress of relentless work schedules, they model not only how to op...

Jake & Brett welcome their friend Dominic to the show and explore the complexities of marriage, personal growth, and the foundational role of sonship. They discuss intentionally fathering children, se...

Jake and Brett are back to discuss the importance of real, unfiltered, and authentic conversations between men about matters of the heart. In this episode, they share why many men struggle to have mea...

Jake & Brett have some big announcements to share about the future of the podcast. They share about some exciting endeavors that have begun in their lives & reminisce about some of the best moments, g...

Jake & Brett have worked together with organizations to help solve some of their issues & grow in some places that needed improvement. In this episode, they share these leadership & relational skills ...

Jake & Brett just returned from their annual men's retreat with beautiful reflections on what the Lord did. They discuss the power of praying together, falling back in love with Jesus & how interactio...

Dr. Jordan Peterson has been in the news recently so Jake & Brett discuss the situation and what they appreciate about Dr. Peterson. They share the lessons they have learned from Jordan in regards to ...

Brett shares a quote from the movie "Sully" that really struck him: "Can we get serious now?" He and Jake discuss that as a culture and as men, we need to start focusing on what really matters and not...

Jake & Brett are together in person to discuss men & feelings. There is a common narrative that men don't have emotions but that just simply isn't the case. Our hosts discuss how this common misconcep...

Jake & Brett are back from their summer break! They share the highlights of their summer & dive into a new season by discussing what happens when you let your masculinity grow. They talk about the imp...

Jake and Brett are taking time off for summer vacation and want the listeners of the podcast to enjoy the break as well. They also remind us that you can take this time as an opportunity to catch up o...

In part 2 of our "Life Compass" series, Jake and Brett dive further into discussion about personal values, virtues & leaving a legacy. They talk about "eulogy virtues" and what they mean for how we co...

Brett has a project called the "Life Compass" that he has been working on for many years. Jake invites him to share where this idea came from & how it has transformed his life. In this two part series...

Jake and Brett interview Ralph Martin, the president of Renewal Ministries, which is an organization devoted to Catholic renewal and evangelization. Ralph is also the host of the long running televisi...

In this conversation with prolific author and renowned educator George Weigel, Jake and Brett talk through a number of extremely important topics regarding modern man, faith & culture. George shares h...

Jake and Brett wrap up the season reflecting on all that they heard from their great guests throughout this series about the Good Life. They discuss the themes that tied many of the episodes from this...

Jake and Brett talk with Father Boniface Hicks, a monk who serves as the director of The Institute for Ministry Formation at St Vincent Seminary in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. He is also Jake's spiritual d...

In this episode of Way of the Heart, Jake & Brett are joined by long time friend, Peter White. Peter is a Registered Clinical Counselor that has known Jake professionally for years and watched Brett h...

In this episode of Way of the Heart, Jake and Brett are joined by a close friend of the show, Dr. Christopher West. Christopher is a renowned Catholic author and speaker on the topic of human sexualit...

Jake and Brett sit down this week and speak with Dr John Bergsma. Dr. Bergsma is a professor at Franciscan University and one of the leading Scripture scholars in the nation. The guys talk about "The ...

Way of the Heart continues diving deeper into the theme of "the Good Life." Joined by Bishop Scott McCaig, the guys dive into conversation regarding the 4 levels of happiness and how that contributes ...

Jake & Brett begin Season 13 with the primary question of "Are you happy?" They discuss where they will be headed in their new season about "the good life." The guys open up about their personal lives...

Jake & Brett tease they're upcoming season called "The Good Life." They share how excited they are and Brett calls it their most important series yet! Some great conversations, guests and life lessons...

Jake & Brett close out Season 12 with a conversation about Teddy Roosevelt's "Citizen in a Republic" speech commonly known as the "Man in the Arena" speech. They discuss how to deal with critics(inclu...

Have you ever wondered which of your every day thoughts are from God, and which are not? Or have you ever contemplated, "What's God's will?" when faced with a decision, big or small? A series of simpl...

Today, Jake and Brett welcome their last guest of Season 12, Simon Kyne, to the podcast. You may not recognize his name, but Simon is the 'friend' mentioned in many stories throughout our episodes. In...

In this episode, Jake and Brett sit down with Fr. John Riccardo, a priest from the Archdiocese of Detroit who leads a ministry called Acts 29 which helps ordained and lay leaders in this apostolic age...

Employing true critical thinking in our current cultural environment requires no small measure of courage. Our guest today, Fr. Raymond de Souza, is no stranger to making his thoughts known in the pub...

Have you ever wondered what it's like to be a Navy SEAL? How do SEALs stay the course under the most brutal circumstances and what can we learn from them as men living in our own arenas? In this episo...

Do you feel disillusioned by the state of the world? Are you feeling lukewarm in your faith? Jake and Brett talk to Peter Herbeck of Renewal Ministries about judgment, the grinding down of truth, rede...

Jake and Brett share their highs and lows of the summer, and introduce the theme for Season 12: Men in the Arena. Over the next few weeks, we'll hear from five men who are living 'in the arena,' inclu...

In this final episode of Way of the Heart before a summer hiatus, Jake and Brett discuss the feelings that the summer evokes for them and what this says about the Father's heart.   Key Points   Brett...

In a recent conversation, Jake had an image come to mind of planets revolving around the sun, except instead of planets they were people, and instead of the sun, Jesus was at the centre of everything....

Jake and Brett have a rich conversation covering everything from the principle of asceticism, to how true self-actualization is found in Christ, to what it means for us to be living in what George Wei...

Jake and Brett look back at one hundred episodes of the Way of the Heart by sharing favourite episodes, what they wish they'd talked about more, and how they've watched each other grow over the past f...

If you've ever listened to the podcast and wondered, "What on earth do they mean by 'orphan mentality' or 'foxhole friends'?" then this episode is for you. Jake and Brett zoom out to explain some of t...

Why does it matter to know and define our personal values? Jake and Brett argue that discovering our personal value system can help us understand and live God's unique design for our lives. Whether we...

Jake and Brett continue the conversation from last episode about what's going on in the culture. The topics on the table are "cancel culture" and the digitization of everything, but most importantly h...

Bishop Scott McCaig, CC is back to share what he sees happening on a heart-level in our culture today. If we want to truly live the way of the heart, we have to understand the culture we're living in ...

Show Notes:   Jake and Brett welcome Bishop Scott McCaig, CC back onto the podcast to revisit a quote from the Catechism of the Catholic Church that addresses the way of the heart. They each share ref...

In this episode of the Way of the Heart, we host special guest Bishop Scott McCaig, CC. We dialogue about discerning the internal critic and what voices belong to the enemy, the self, and the Holy Spi...

Jake revisits his low from the last episode, which revolves around friendship dynamics and his shortcomings. Brett presses into the recent and humbling experience Jake had with an old friend, and the ...

Brett's low this week leads to an extended conversation about the internal critic, a diminishing voice that tends to show up when we least want it to: during a work meeting, right before an important ...

As men, we often find it difficult to look at our woundedness and need for healing. Why is that, and what can we do to engage the process better in this important area? In this episode, renowned Catho...

Loneliness is epidemic among men today. The thing is, we're not meant to live without deep friendship. Join Jake and Brett as they get real about the strength they've found in their own friendship and...

In today's episode, Brett and Jake engage with deep questions of the heart as they discuss the shrinking church. While they begin by citing Canadian stats, this trend is evident in other Western count...

How often do we pause to think about how we're spending our time? Are the things that are taking up our attention truly making us feel alive? In this episode, Jake and Brett explore a list of the thin...

Now is not a very popular time to be a Catholic. The culture which was once steeped in Christian ideals is now hostile to those same ideals and beliefs. In this episode, Jake and Brett discuss a book ...

Our lives are increasingly distracted, and our constantly connected state can threaten to overwhelm us. Jake and Brett discuss how the art of benevolent detachment can help you 'get your life back' an...

We all have times in our life where the stress piles up and the tasklist seems endless. This week, Jake and Brett go down an unscripted route as they dive a little deeper into the reasons behind our d...